In this episode we’re joined by Maria Moreno, a paediatric sleep consultant and motherhood life coach. With her wealth of experience, Maria shares insights on the unique sleep struggles faced by autistic children and offers practical advice for parents navigating these challenges. From personalised sleep plans to sensory considerations, this conversation is packed with valuable information to help families find their way to more restful nights.
Biography
Maria Moreno is a certified paediatric sleep consultant—with a specialization in neurodivergent sleep—and a motherhood life coach dedicated to supporting moms through the emotional challenges of motherhood. She holds a master’s degree in art education and has spent over 15 years working with neurodivergent children, bringing a deep understanding and empathy to the families she serves. After navigating postpartum depression and severe sleep deprivation, she founded Mindful Mother to help families restore rest and balance. She’s also the co-founder of Tumago, a handmade comfort blanket brand designed with sensory-sensitive and neurodivergent children in mind. Maria blends lived experience, professional training, and compassionate coaching to empower overwhelmed moms with practical, personalized tools that bring calm, connection, and confidence to their motherhood journey.
Key Takeaways
Understanding Individual Needs: Every child is different, and sleep plans should be tailored to their unique personalities and family dynamics.
Importance of Routines: Consistent bedtime routines can help children understand what to expect and ease the transition to sleep.
Visual Supports: Utilising visuals, like personalised bedtime books, can aid in preparing children for sleep changes.
Sensory Considerations: Addressing sensory sensitivities with appropriate comfort items can significantly improve sleep quality.
Environmental Factors: Creating a calming sleep environment, including blackout curtains and white noise machines, can help minimise disruptions.
Connect with Maria Moreno
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Maria’s Gentle Sleep Starter Guide for Kids with Autism
https://www.mindfulmother.biz/autismsleep
This guide is designed to help parents gently create better sleep routines for their neurodivergent children, without cry-it-out methods or rigid schedules. It’s full of simple, parent-friendly tools that truly make a difference.
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Transcript
Victoria Bennion: [00:00:00] today, we’re excited to welcome to the podcast Maria Marino, a certified pediatric sleep consultant and motherhood life coach. After our last episode about sleep, many of you reached out with questions about sleep challenges, so we thought it would be great to explore these themes further if you don’t know Maria, she holds a Master’s degree in art education and has over 15 years experience working with neurodivergent children. After navigating her own struggles with postpartum depression and sleep deprivation, she founded Mindful Mother to help families restore balance and rest.
Maria is the co-founder of Tumago. A handmade comfort blanket brand designed specifically for sensory sensitive children. Her blend of lived experience and
professional expertise empowers overwhelmed parents with practical,
personalized tools to enhance their journey.
Natalie Tealdi: Welcome to the podcast Maria.
Maria Moreno: Thank you so much for having me.
Natalie Tealdi: We would love to know more about what inspired you
to become a [00:01:00] pediatric sleep
consultant and motherhood life coach especially for neurodivergent
families, I.
Maria Moreno: I have a master’s in art education and I have
worked with kids for over 15 years. Being in the arts or being in
elective class I. I have very single type of kid coming in and out of
my classroom I find that as a blessing
’cause I’ve been able to work with kids with autism, with kids, with
A DHD, so on and so forth. I have my fair share of experience and I
have always have a special place in my heart because it’s just.
Amazing. I love it I became a mom during COVID my little one had
reflux, had a heart condition, had a bunch of things going on at the
same time, and she was a very poor sleeper. She would wake up most.
Five, six times a night for at least the first six months before I
hired my own first sleep consultant.
What was wild to me is that
the pediatrician never really told me anything about a sleep
consultant until I was like, this is really affecting me. My
postpartum [00:02:00] depression was
escalating, postpartum anxiety was escalating. Postpartum rage was
starting to pop up. I was seeing blurry.
It was just not great at all.
I hired, a sleep consultant, with my little one by three to four
nights. She was already sleeping through the night. She would wake up
maybe once to eat and then continue.
From there, I realized a huge
change and how beneficial obviously it is to sleep because a lot of
us, tend to take rest for granted. I was, start helping other moms,
giving them like little tips, tricks and whatever. And then a mom
actually told me, Hey, why don’t you do this?
Okay. I got into the sleep
consulting and. Then I realized that, where I got my certification,
they also have four neurodivergent kids. And I like this because that
means I can help more families. My nature is to be able to help as
many families and kids because, I have experienced what sleep
deprivation is firsthand and. I can only imagine having, a little one
with autism with anxiety, with a [00:03:00]
DHD, so on and so forth. I decided to get my certification because I
wanted to be able to help as many as I can. That is how, mindful
mother became to be,
Victoria:
I like what you say. I don’t like what you say about sleep
deprivation, but it took me back ’cause my daughter was a terrible
sleeper too. She’d reflux and I think it was 18 months before she
slept through the night. So I didn’t know there were such things as
sleep consultant. So it’s brilliant to hear what you are doing. In
terms of, your work with neurotypical children and neurodivergent
children. what differences do you see?
Maria
Moreno: Usually it’s a process that it’s a little bit
longer and the reason why is because I like to take it step by step.
A lot of people tend to put everything just cookie cutter, and ,
every kid. Doesn’t matter who. Every kid is completely different. The
personalities are different.
Their needs are different.
Their family dynamics is different. What their parents also need is
different. So I don’t like to sit here and be like, Hey cut cutter
here. This is what [00:04:00] you got.
It’s fine. It works for every kid. With autism, no, that’s not how it
works because I know that there’s different spectrums.
I know that, depending on the
texture, depending on the colors, depending on the environment,
depending on everything it’s a combination of things, and is one of
the biggest difference that, it’s not going to be, two weeks or a
week.
It’s gonna be a little bit
longer because it’s a prepping work for them to start understanding
what’s coming up next and for the family to also be already, okay,
this is what’s coming up next, step by step. So that way it’s a
smoother transition than if it’s just like. Do this, do that, do
this, and just everything is just one to two weeks. That’s how we get
more tantrums not very happy families,
Victoria:
yeah, that makes sense. You definitely need the time to get used to
the change. Yeah, I can see that.
Natalie
Tealdi: Can you walk us through what a personalized sleep
plan looks like and how your custom bedtime books support the
process?
Maria
Moreno: A personalized sleep plan I go over with the
family the [00:05:00] intake form. Then
after that I go over the actual plan with them, and then I create a
personalized sleep book for the child. It’s not only just one book,
it’s a series of okay, this is phase one. Okay, this is phase two.
This is phase three. So let’s
say, that child is used to sleeping in the bed, in the room, or in
the bedroom with the parents. And the parent’s would like them to be
able to sleep in their own bed or in their own bedroom. How do we
start doing that? So we’re not gonna go from okay, you know what?
You’re sleeping in your room.
That’s it. No, there’s different steps to it, right? So creating
these personalized books, it becomes. Personal to ’em. It’s oh, this
is me in the book. Awesome. It’s easy for them to understand.
It’s easier for them to
process. Because any type of change for anybody is very hard. The
best way that I explain it to parents is you have your favorite
pillow, right? And I come along and I either take it away or give you
a different one, or you’re gonna be happy.
No,
Victoria:
No.
Maria
Moreno: not at all. So [00:06:00]
imagine, a child. And then a child with autism, it’s even harder,
it’s harder for them to understand so the books help with that
process, it helps it become more personalized. It helps them to
understand whether, leaving the bottle or this is how we go from
sleeping in the bedroom.
So I had a client. That she
wanted him to start sleeping in his own room. And we did a little
book of okay, we’re gonna be sleep, mommy’s gonna be in the bed with
you in your room. So that’s the first transition. So we started just
little by little working on that.
For him to be comfortable with
his space, comfortable with his bed, and. Like I said, it all depends
on the personality and where in the spectrum,
Victoria:
Yeah, I can see that. Certainly my son and probably yours, Natalie,
would really benefit from seeing things visually. So I can see that a
book is such a good tool to use to help ease that transition. Such a
great idea. I.
Maria:
end of the case, hey, like
Maria
Moreno: if there is,
Maria:
you know,
Maria
Moreno: certain books [00:07:00]
when it’s not personalized,
They don’t really react the
same way, and that goes for any child. Imagine your name being on, on
a book. It’s ooh, oh wow. This is awesome, so yeah. So that’s the
reason I really enjoy doing these small little series to help with
the process.
Victoria:
When parents and carers come. To you, are some of them completely
exhausted and overwhelmed?
Maria:
Most of ’em. Yes. Yeah. , Most parents tend to be already on that
thread of just I don’t know what else to do.
Victoria:
What do you advise them when they come to you and they’re in that
state?
Maria
Moreno: I like to work a step at a time because what I
have realized, even, in my own personal life, when you start taking
everything just one wave, it’s a lot. It’s a lot for anybody. For
parents, it’s tripled because you’re not only thinking about
yourself, but you’re also thinking about, your kids.
The amount of pressure and now
what society tells you what you should and shouldn’t do, and what you
can and cannot do, what’s good and for your, it’s just so many things
that it’s just like it can drive somebody crazy and then we’re here
wondering why parents [00:08:00] are
reacting the way that they’re reacting.
Natalie
Tealdi: So can you tell us more about to Margo and how
sense. Three friendly comfort items can support neurodivergent
children at bedtime.
Maria
Moreno: So that’s actually a cute story. Tomago is
actually a handmade blankets that my mom. Make, I began with my first
daughter they have little holes, both of my girls are so obsessed
with them that I have to wash ’em like three to four times a week. I
would see her and she would just be rubbing it on her face and things
like that, right? And so I would tell my mom I was like, why don’t
you start selling them? This is amazing. This is not the typical
blanket that you’re gonna see, , in kids stores you’re not gonna see
’em anywhere. And she was like, okay. So she started making them and
she makes ’em with so much love. And then as I. Her company continued
growing. I went to different events and then a mom with a little one
with autism came along and he touched it and he did not let it go.
He was like that’s not, Nope,
that’s not happening. And so that’s when it came to me that I looked
at my mom, I was like, mom, [00:09:00]
this could be very helpful. For kids with autism, for kids, even with
a DHD, with sensory, like any, with anxiety.
We have already a couple of
clients that their kids have autism we have the smaller ones that
they can take anywhere, and then you see them putting their fingers
through, right? And so I know that tends to help them soothe overall,
just like the texture itself,
we have different colors to be
less stimulating. We have realized that it really helps kids soothe.
It’s just been a wonderful experience to be able to help the
community with their little ones that they could just take it
anywhere, which is the best part.
You’re not have to be worrying
about like a big blanket or anything like that. It’s the same texture
depending on the size. And yeah, that’s how I came to be.
Victoria:
Oh, fantastic.
Natalie
Tealdi: They look lovely. You’re giving me flashbacks as
well. ’cause do you remember my yellow blanket, Victoria? I had a
yellow blanket when I was little, and I used to always wanna sleep
with that yellow blanket and my mom would just swap it for another
one that wasn’t quite the same, [00:10:00]
just so she could wash it.
And I always knew it was the
wrong one.
Maria
Moreno: Yeah, I actually had a dad that when he came by
the table in one of the events, he was like, oh, he didn’t even have
his daughter next to him, but he touched him. He is oh, this is nice.
But he was like, still debating because he was like, I have bought so
many blankets at this point that the one that she had was already
like, she, he was like, it was ready to throw away,
so I was like, listen, it’s
okay. Here, take one of the small ones and if you like them. You can
come back, or just contact me and I’ll be more than happy to, have my
mom, pick the color you can let me know the size. And then he ended
up buying four because the little girl loved it so much it was almost
three years that he’s been trying to find some type of other blanket
to be able to, like exchange.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah.
Maria
Moreno: My 4-year-old she has to sleep with four or five
of ’em. And the greatest part of it is like the holes that they
could, they love to put it on their face so you’re not, worrying
about like the suffocation either.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah.
Victoria:
Can you share any sort of top
practical tips for sleep [00:11:00]
strategies? I know they’re personalized, but is there common things
that you see, things that people can do that they’re not doing?
Maria:
The pretty obvious ones is have visuals, right? And the routines tend
to be very helpful. But I know that it’s hard to stick with the
routines sometimes because of all the therapies and medical
appointments, so on and so forth, I would like for any mom on here
that’s actually listening, give yourself grace.
Because at the end of the day,
motherhood is not easy. And just try to take a huge deep breath it’s
easier said than done, but. Routines tend to be very helpful. The
books help a lot because that way, the children know what’s coming up
next and what the process is gonna be about.
Because , if we prepare our
kids to be able to understand what’s going on the transitions tend to
be smoother. Then also the sensory part, usually things like the
blankets tend to help out a lot to be able to help to [00:12:00]
self-soothe throughout the night.
And, I know that melatonin
because I heard the conversation that you guys had in the episode. It
does help but it can eventually your system, it starts getting immune
used to it. So then you start having to have higher doses, and then
your body can’t stop producing the natural melatonin,
so having that as, a resource
is good, but implementing other resources like a sleeping plan, the
books and things like that can help them. For the longer run to
understand how to independently sleep and not be counting on
melatonin.
Natalie:
Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
Victoria:
What kind of things would you work into , a sleep plan for an
evening? Would it be a bath? Do you suggest screens off a certain
time? Is there anything like that? I.
Maria:
I know that it depends on the case and on the child. Bath does tend
to help, for some, I know that there are some kids with autism that,
that they just don’t like it. So the wiping [00:13:00]
down can help. Having little transitions of bedtime.
For them to understand and for
their body to start understanding as well. Because if you have
different triggers, your brain automatically starts producing the
melatonin, so having, okay, like the brushing the teeth, this goes
first the wiping down. Reading the book, having the bottle.
I know that there’s some kids
that need sensory wise, they’re pacifier, okay. We have that too.
Okay, we have the bottle, but they wanna be able to take away the
bottle. How do we do that? That goes another little book of how,
where the child, okay, you’re finished with the milk.
Where can. They put it
afterwards, so that way they have some type of responsibility
themselves that makes them proud of themselves. The reward charts as
well. And this is a visual rewards of oh, I can put the sticker or I
can mark it down, or whatever it is that, that your child can get
excited for I have noticed that even in the classroom it works
[00:14:00] beautifully because if
they’re proud of themselves of being, to be able to accomplish this,
it becomes more of a motivation.
Natalie:
One of the things that my children struggle with is the change of
seasons. So particularly the summertime can be really difficult
because it’s not dark at nighttime. So particularly my son who’s
autistic it’s not dark, so it’s not nighttime.
I don’t need to go to bed.
What would you advise?
Maria:
Oh my God. Yeah. No, to be honest with you I think it even messes us
up when we’re adults because , obviously that tends to be a visual
cue of oh, it’s nighttime, we have to go to sleep. During the
transition, before that time change hits.
It tends to be one of the
biggest, best ways to be able, because that way your brain already
starts producing the melatonin at a certain time of the date. It
doesn’t have to be at the queue of okay, the sun is down, we have to
go to sleep. No, it’s okay, like I’m starting to get tired because
you’re transitioning almost a month in advance.
You’re helping them to
[00:15:00] start transitioning because ,
that hour change it. Yeah. Like even my 4-year-old loves to play that
card on me all the time. It’s but the sun is out. No. Or the sun
comes out even earlier and she’s wake up.
Natalie:
Yeah.
Maria:
sun is out. And you’re like it’s six o’clock.
Go back to sleep. Yeah.
Natalie:
Yeah. Okay.
Victoria:
Is it important to keep a consistent time for getting up in the
morning as well as part of the routine?
Maria:
Definitely, I know that one’s a harder part because , depending on
what’s going on during the day or the night before that tends to be
a. It plays a big part, right? So for example, if your child is
overtired, most kids tend to actually wake up through during the
night or even very early in the morning, right?
So that’s when we have those
really early wakings of four o’clock in the morning, five o’clock in
the morning that you’re like, it’s still time to go to sleep, if
they’re resting and you’re having a certain routine or a schedule it
helps the internal clock for them [00:16:00]
to just be ready to go to sleep and then to be able to wake up,
so it’s a little alarm clock
that internally they’re like, oh, okay. And it, you will start seeing
that between, certain times that is when they’re gonna be waking up.
Victoria:
What do you do? Do. If your child keeps waking up through the night,
what are the best things to do? Is it best to forget it and get up,
or, do you need to sit with them? Do you give them some kind of
entertainment? What are the best strategies?
Maria:
Usually I wouldn’t recommend screens, because the screens overall
have the blue light that makes your brain wake up, obviously, you
know your child best and if you think that is what they need at that
moment to be able to calm them down soothe them or whatever it is
what works for you, what is, what works for you.
Let’s say that you’re doing
the transition of putting them, in their bed and then they wake up
and they wanna go into your bed, go back into their bed and just
either wait for them to go to sleep or whatever stage you are in that
in that process,
Put in the bedtime routine
and then what happens when they wake up and what are they doing when
they [00:17:00] wake up? That’s another
one.
Natalie:
One of the problems we have with our son is if he wakes up needing
the toilet in the night at four o’clock in the morning, he will get
up and get dressed. Because he’ll just say I’m up now. I’m not going
back to sleep. And that’s the start of his day. Any advice for that
one?
Maria:
I would like for a little bit more background story, but usually if
he’s like you said, if he’s the one that is oh, but if the sun is
out, why am I gonna bed? Maybe the visual cue be like, do you see the
sun out? Or, because, if he’s already conscious about if the sun is
out, that means I’m, I should be awake.
There’s the sun out. Alright.
Okay. That means that we could go back and then just, depending on
what he needs to be able to fall asleep, then you could go ahead and
maybe start doing that. So that way he’s, he starts getting into a
rhythm of okay, I get up. Time to go back to sleep. I
Natalie:
Thank you.
Maria:
don’t know if you’ve tried that or not, but.
Natalie:
Yeah, sometimes it works. Like [00:18:00]
sometimes I’ve brought him in with me and then he’ll settle or I’ll
go into his room with him and he’ll settle. Sometimes he’s adamant,
absolutely not. He’s getting up and he goes downstairs and watches tv
and that’s the start of his day. It varies.
Victoria:
How important is the environment in which they’re going to sleep? Are
there certain things you’d recommend that you had in the bedroom, or
any changes that we can make? I know Natalie says with her son waking
up, well with mine we used to have a blackout blind that we would use
quite a lot
but are there certain tools or
anything that you would suggest.
Maria:
Definitely the blackouts tend to be a big one because , like they see
the sun or they see lights. It’s an automatically, even for us, we
should be having blackouts for our brain to be actually like on rest
mode. I know that there are, some kids are very sensitive with sound,
but if they’re not white noise machine tends to help them soothe
whales, depending on what they’re into,
because I know [00:19:00]
that there’s some kids that would be doing well with ocean waves, and
then there’s some kids that have to have that static sound the whole
night. So depending on what it is that they’re into or that they like
or what helps them soothe will be a great tool to be able to
implement that.
Whether it’s, soothing, like a
very, orangey low light. My daughter likes to sleep with purple
light. She went from having to have everything as a blackout, like
you couldn’t see anything to, oh, I need to have a purple light. She
doesn’t fall asleep on her own, by herself in her room without the
purple light.
So it’s seeing what it is that
could help them stay asleep and fall asleep. Because , something
might work one day and then there’s too much, and yeah, it’s just
like that process of okay, what is it that they need and what is it
that helps them ?
Because I can give you a
million things that we can all purchase. And then not even, not one
single thing. And I’m pretty sure you guys have gone through that
already, [00:20:00] right? And so
finding like these little blankets, the holes and there’s some kits
that I know that they put like the lavender or some type of like
aroma.
My daughter gets scared
sometimes during the night, and I put my perfume, or I put them in my
shirt so that way they smell like me. So as soon as they, yeah, so as
soon as they, they hug it or they smell whatever it is that you gave
’em, it helps ’em soothe because it smells like you because you are
their comfort.
Victoria:
I can see that there’s an awful lot that goes into this. When you
start working with families. ’cause it sounds like you really need to
know what the. That individual child is struggling with before you
can start trying the different things.
Maria:
Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And also, depending on the needs of the child
I like to be honest, if I can actually work with you or if I refer
you out and get you the resources that you need to be able to find
somebody that can actually help you.
Because it all depends, where
in the spectrum they are in.
Victoria:
Yeah, absolutely.
Natalie:
Yeah. We [00:21:00] touched on fear
there, didn’t we? But I was gonna say, what, do you have any other
tips if children are feeling fearful and anxious at night?
Maria:
So definitely that one is a big one. The comfort, the, I know that a
lot of us like to be like, oh, let’s take away the bottle, the
pacifier, the this, the that, because of a certain age, because
society tells you that they’re not supposed to be having certain
things.
And it’s like every child is
different. Every child has their different needs and the sounds tend
to be helpful, the whiteness machine, the ocean the whale sounds.
Having a lamp that looks like the ocean tends to be soothing for
some. And so having this and knowing that it helps your child’s
soothe and it works, don’t take it away because society or somebody
else tells you if it works, just continue doing it. Because once we
start, taking things away or changing it up, that’s when things start
complicated. Now another one could be , if they’re afraid of some
monsters, they can go [00:22:00] ahead
have a spray bottle and have them decorated with little monster and
things like that for them to be , this is my, weapon to be able to
protect myself. Little tools like that tends to, that, that it gets
your child excited of I have the power, ’cause , if they’re fearful,
that means that they feel like they’re not safe at that moment. And
so if you do give them a tool that helps ’em feel safe, whether it’s
a comfort blanket, or whether it’s a spray bottle or even a light.
Natalie:
Yeah.
Victoria:
That’s brilliant. Do you have any examples you can share of families
you’ve worked with and help them transform the sleep of their child?
Maria:
Yeah, like the one that I was mentioning. So that family was. Know,
struggling with their little one, being able to actually stay in the
room and be able to sleep in the room. We went from him sleeping in
their bedroom in their bed to having him actually sleep in his room
and be able to sleep through the night and, wake up sometimes five or
six o’clock in the morning, [00:23:00]
but at least the parents were able to sleep in their bed, in their
own space because I know that.
Co-sleeping can be
challenging. I personally cannot because my daughters, both of ’em
just weight too much and I’m a light sleeper, so I just can’t. But I
know that there’s sometimes that you have to and so that transition
of being able to have him feel safe in his own space and his own room
was one of the biggest milestones that he hit, he was six at the
time. And, as we were working together, things worked, saying things
didn’t work, and it’s okay, let’s retake this. Let’s see what’s going
on. Okay, let’s try this. And so until we finally, figured out that.
He just wanted mom there. So having the smell of his mom made a big
difference.
And when he did have those
wake ups in the night the mom will go and sit next to the bed, and so
the transition is , having him feel comfortable in his room. Having
him pick his own covers, have him, be [00:24:00]
able to have the control of what goes in and out of the room.
If they’re into the characters
the colors, whatever it is, it makes ’em feel like it’s their space.
And that’s something very important to be able to have them feel safe
in their space, that you want them to be able to sleep. And that goes
even for us. We don’t wanna be sleeping in a space that we’re like,
this is not mine.
That was a huge big step. And
it did take almost six to eight weeks, but , he was able to sleep in
his room and he was able to sleep through the night for most nights.
And therapies were able get better. Yeah. Sleep was, school was was
getting better, easier healthier.
Natalie:
has such a knock on effect, doesn’t it? Once you get the sleep right,
I think I.
Maria:
Yeah. Yeah. At the end of the day, like for all of us, we need to
sleep, it, it affects tremendously when it comes to like our mental
health, our emotional health, and even our physical health, and so
it’s hard for any of us to [00:25:00] be
able to have a good immune system.
Or have a regulated emotional
system when we’re exhausted,
Victoria:
Hundred percent. And Maria, you’ve
got a really generous gift for our listeners, which is your gentle
sleep starter guide for kids with autism. Could you tell us a little
bit about that please?
Maria:
A , Bedtime routine checklist. In
case you want a. Customize one. Message
me. I’ll be more than happy to do it for you, so that way you just
print it out and good to go.
Victoria:
And you also have very kindly offered our audience 20% off the Margo
Handmade comfort blankets that you were showing us, which is
fantastic. Thanks so much. Where’s the best place to connect with
you?
Maria:
Instagram mindful Mother sleep, and email me at Mindful Mother
llc@gmail.com.
Victoria:
That’s brilliant. Thanks so much for coming on and talking to us
today and sharing all your insights into sleep and parenting
Neurodivergent children. We really [00:26:00]
appreciate
Maria: Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.